The shallow logic of this "movement" shows the flaws in the core anarchist agenda. You may be against "big brother", but take it from someone well-versed... accept and work with the current "establishment", as anarchy gives way to organized crime.
agdaniele - August 24, 2009, 10:55 pm,
And if you think the current governing bodies are unfair and restricting, you have no idea how quickly anarchy is eradicated under organized crime. Anarchy is the last thing anyone should wish for.
Haarakkon - August 25, 2009, 2:20 am,
Seemed to work great in the former USSR...
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 2:24 am,
If they are against scientology they must have some good points!
Haarakkon - August 25, 2009, 2:30 am,
Oh, bashing religion now?
Haarakkon - August 25, 2009, 2:31 am,
Psssst... that was said in jest.
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 2:43 am,
Scientology is only considered a religion in a few countries. L.Ron Hubbard was once quoted as saying that "if a man wants to make real money he should start his own religion". Hard to respect a "religion" started by a bad sci-fi author.
Haarakkon - August 25, 2009, 2:46 am,
Can't say as I'm too familiar with Scientology, m'self. Not a lot of practioners in this neck of the woods. And that's okay. We're a little short on Nordic Shamans, too. And that's not okay.
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 2:54 am,
www.xenu.com its so weird it's funny! They have a policy ststing that if a members family is not 100% in support of the church the member must sever all ties with that family. forever. They limit procreation among members because children distract members
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 2:55 am,
attention from the 40+ hours a week they work for the church. (for free)
agdaniele - August 25, 2009, 2:56 am,
My only point was that in a non-conformist society, anarchists are the first to receive a chicken-wire hug.
agdaniele - August 25, 2009, 2:57 am,
They lack nerve, social skills and organization.
agdaniele - August 25, 2009, 2:59 am,
But the Anonymous clan attacks more than Scientology. It's the general government constrictions they wish to relieve. It's anarchy without long-term vision. They want to remove what they perceive as wrong, but don't have a plan for the aftermath....
agdaniele - August 25, 2009, 2:59 am,
And there is where organized crime takes over.
agdaniele - August 25, 2009, 3:01 am,
Scientology, we can call bonkers... and it is. BUT, you have to give them the same respect as all the other religions that are now considered mythology. They were all considered legitimate in their time.
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 3:08 am,
how does it differ from a cult though? They control every aspect of members lives and believe in an evil alien warlord. how do they differ from most cults? and why do they only have religion status in a few countries.
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 3:09 am,
And remember much of the world now considers all religions mythology. Myself included.
agdaniele - August 25, 2009, 3:12 am,
That's my point. They all run their course. Show them respect. Disrespect is history's job, not ours.
agdaniele - August 25, 2009, 3:15 am,
I just don't like the Anonymous clan, as they are organized anarchy. And the agents of anarchy, upon succeeding, always fail/die first. They are just the non-confrontational, sissy version of the 80's punk-rock anarchists.
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 3:20 am,
I only know about their anti scientology stance. My opinions about religion differ slightly from yours though. I dont wanna wait 2000 years to call a cult a cult. Their history is the only reason i show respect to the older religions.
Haarakkon - August 25, 2009, 3:21 am,
Interesting point regarding the vacuum allowing for the entry of organized crime. I can't think of a single instance where this hasn't been the case.
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 3:25 am,
Organized crime? is that like when mooooo holds the bakery door while i grab the pie and run?
agdaniele - August 25, 2009, 3:31 am,
Just like that, TTH.... or, when the troll keychains aren't selling like they used to, so you go out and create some lucky rabbit-foot keychains.
Haarakkon - August 25, 2009, 3:34 am,
Provided you can't find any other use for the rabbit's foot. Anyhoo, since Nordic Shamanism is off the table, I gotta check out. See ya 'round, guys.
agdaniele - August 25, 2009, 3:34 am,
Haar.... it always happens that way, absolutely. The funny thing is that drug dealers and criminals prosper under this system. They are poorer and/or killed when the mafia took over. Anarchists just don't check history and reality first.