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"If we have a program...of universal health care, that will disproportionately affect people of color, because they’re disproportionately uninsured" --Barack Obama

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Sean - August 24, 2009, 1:19 am,
So yer equating helping black folks with some sort of eugenics program? Seriously?
Sean - August 24, 2009, 1:20 am,
Let me guess WTFO, you have no concerns about your own health care do you? You got yours, eh?
Mooooooooooooooooooo - August 24, 2009, 1:31 am,
This is just wrong. 1 Lion.
Derek - August 24, 2009, 5:45 am,
Providing everyone with health care is socialist? You're giving socialism a good name :-)
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 6:48 am,
A health care plan that would be run by the government, a "public option" that over time no longer becomes an option but mandatory, is socialism in health care by definition. So therefore yes. Plus health care is not the first thing Obama has
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 6:49 am,
been socialist about. Plus the direct quote from Obama is just one more example of reverse racism on his part; for he focuses on "people of color".
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 6:58 am,
Can you at least try to refrain from talking about politics, PKP? Please?
culos - August 24, 2009, 6:59 am,
PKP you really need to study the definition of socialist. You seem to confuse it with a caring and democratic society. Remember the USSR, the Union of SOCIALIST Soviet Republics? And do you really think reverse racism = socialist???? Go get your card!
culos - August 24, 2009, 7:00 am,
I second AK's motion
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 8:27 am,
Um... no I think reverse racism = reverse racism and socialism = socialism. And I know what the definition of socialism is but apparently others here don't. There is no question that the former Soviet Union was more socialist; but the point is that
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 8:27 am,
Obama's policies eventually LEAD to a more socialist state. Socialized health care exists in places like Great Britain and Canada; and as stated a billion times by people, there is a reason why patients from those places come here to the States
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 8:27 am,
for health care. Why? Because the government denies treatments at times and the care sucks. If you are in denial of the fact the the health care plan is a form of socialism; may I kindly
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 8:28 am,
remind you that over time as I said before the public "option" would gradually no longer become an "option". Not only would an employer be likely to drop the existing plan their employees have in favor of the cheaper "public option"; but the bill also has
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 8:28 am,
a very strict criteria as to what would be a "qualified plan". Not to mention the fact that young people first entering the work force would be more and more likely to enroll in this "public option" as the years pass. So eventually most people would be
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 8:28 am,
on the government run plan. Plus, the bill calls for a government panel to be set up that would decide what treatments are covered and what treatments would not be covered; and treatment may very well be denied to the elderly or the ones with certain
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 8:28 am,
conditions. This is evidenced in many other countries that have tried socialized health care; and responsible people don't want that same **** in the States. The other examples of socialism that I was referring to was his takeover of GM, which shall
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 8:28 am,
henceforth be known as Government Motors. Just because they received a bail out and filed for bankruptcy does not mean Obama had to do what he did there; pushing that company to make those stupid looking faggoty a** fuel efficient cars and
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 8:29 am,
hiring a former CAMPAIGN WORKER of his to run the place. You got to have your head stuck in the sand to not see that is the government running a business; the very definition of socialism.
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 8:32 am,
And I was referring to people in general having their head stuck in the sand; I'm not meaning to target any specific person here.
BoneCD - August 24, 2009, 8:34 am,
Oh f*** PKP just shut the f*** up. You are boring the f***ing **** out of me and everyone else...get a life son!
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 8:37 am,
I agree.. Get a life. You choose to ignore people when they say this place isn't for politics. You ignore the Admin, even. And you just go on and on and on... It's time to stop.
BoneCD - August 24, 2009, 8:37 am,
Jesus H. Christ PKP, I'm a Real Republican and honestly I'm thinking about killing myself just so I don't have to see your rants anymore!
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 8:39 am,
This is a political based poster. Why would it not spur political discussion?
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 8:40 am,
BoneCD - August 24, 2009, 8:40 am,
*loading my gun*
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 8:40 am,
The Admin told you that a few days ago! Why are you ignoring it??
BoneCD - August 24, 2009, 8:42 am,
*pointing it to my head*
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 8:46 am,
He'll ignore everything I just said. It's like he's in denial.
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 8:50 am,
For the record I was answering Culos' question. The way I see it you should ban all politics (including the posters) from this place or allow it. So, someone can post 1 political based comment but just not 10?
BoneCD - August 24, 2009, 8:51 am,
*click* dammit a dud.. *reloading*
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 8:55 am,
I don't understand why you don't just look for a site that's dedicated to political rants. Don't you think you'll feel more at home? Come on.
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 8:57 am,
Ok, seriously trying to be reasonable; but that's what I see here. I saw political discussion taking place long before I came here and I simply joined it.
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 8:59 am,
And now we're asking you to stop. So stop. Find somewhere else to go.
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 9:00 am,
Then put a stop to everyone's political talking, on both sides, and not just mine.
BoneCD - August 24, 2009, 9:01 am,
*click, bang* WTF...oh ya, forgot to take the blanks out so my wife wouldn't kill me...*reload for the 3rd time*
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 9:02 am,
You and WTFO are the main offenders. I'm just hoping you're not as stubborn as he is, and will eventually listen to me AND the person who created this site.
culos - August 24, 2009, 9:04 am,
I hear the swishing sound of a Ban-hammer being wielded in the background
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 9:08 am,
I will follow the rules; but they will be uniform rules. If you quell political discussion; then quell it all around from everyone; liberals, conservatives, independents, undecideds. Then kindly offer an explanation as to why you as "moderator" and others
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 9:08 am,
have a gigantic problem with politics yet little with actual personal attacks and harassing of members.
culos - August 24, 2009, 9:10 am,
PKP - As you sow so shall you reap, piss someone off and expect to be pissed upon....
BoneCD - August 24, 2009, 9:10 am,
*putting gun to head for the 3rd time*
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 9:13 am,
bOB was the only person on here that it can be said I struck the first blow to; for reasons I explained before. Other than that I have never attacked first; and also for the record most of my "rants" have been AFTER I was attacked first.
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 9:13 am,
The political discussions will most of the time turn into flame wars and personal attacks, that's another reason why it all has to stop. When people disagree with WTFO he resorts to name calling. How many times have you seen him call someone a prick?
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 9:14 am,
But I'm not saying it's just you guys. TTH also stoops sometimes, and that's not good either. I have warned him about it before.
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 9:17 am,
When I saw all these arguments over POLITICS on a site made to make people laugh and unwind, I decided it had to stop. Can you understand that?
BoneCD - August 24, 2009, 9:19 am,
Somebody please swing the BanHammer before I have to call jilford to kill me correctly...pleasezzzzz
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 9:20 am,
Of course I understand that; I simply want the ban on political discussion to be uniform and all around. If you as "moderator" are authorized to make such a decision; I suggest you make an official announcement of such in the forum, as well as a layout
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 9:20 am,
of the consequences of intelligently discussing politics. And BoneCD I have done nothing in my eyes deserving of a ban.
BoneCD - August 24, 2009, 9:23 am,
AK, for a young man, you are a much more patient person than I. One warning or explanation would have been enough for me. After that...Bang...if you know what I mean!
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 9:25 am,
I agree, a ban isn't the answer this time. PKP, as a moderator I have set responsibilities. On the forum side, I have the power to edit and delete posts, either for spam prevention or for stopping flame wars, but on this side of the site, I am just...
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 9:27 am,
...the eyes and ears for the Admin. I have the same responsibilities, but just lack the authority (as of now) ..I just wanted to clear that up. So, I will PM the Admin again, and discuss banning political posters all together. Unless you have a better...
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 9:27 am,
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 9:27 am,
I'm willing to listen...
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 9:29 am,
If all all around ban to politics is his decision then I shall abide by it; but of course I will not be happy. May I once again suggest the proposed or .org site that the idea of has been tossed around.
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 9:30 am,
Sure. He is actually considering it as far as I know. You can PM him if you like, and ask about it.
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 9:31 am,
I just want you to understand where I stand right now, and that all this is pretty difficult to handle if no one cooperates.
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 9:33 am,
Will do. As I said I have no issue with rules; I just want uniform and fair rules.
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 9:37 am,
Of course they'll be fair.
MO - August 24, 2009, 9:37 am,
The soloution? Well lets see......the forum? Hey how bout the forum? I think another great idea would be for you to take your long winded political rants to, oh...I don't know? THE FORUM??? FFS it's right there just waiting....
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 9:38 am,
MO, come on, I don't want this to escalate again.
Ed-Hyde - August 24, 2009, 9:39 am,
OMDEARGODINHEAVEN!!! Seriously Paul. Its the quantity thats the issue. If you've got something to say. Say it. In ONE post. If you can't sum up your thoughts ina paragraph. Try harder.
MO - August 24, 2009, 9:41 am,
AK you know I'm not going to flame someone on politics. I'm just sayin the forum would be just perfect for pages and pages of topical discussion. It really isn't much harder than that. Smooches!
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 9:41 am,
Also, kindly allow me to point out an irony. There were 10 comments in my political "rant"; yet 42 thus far in complaint ABOUT political rants. Interpret those statistics as you will.
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 9:43 am,
That's 52 all spawned out of politics, though. That's how I see it.
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 10:00 am,
If you want to discuss this further with me, feel free to send me a PM. Also, I want to apologise to you for any time I may have offended you. That's not like me at all. I'm sorry.
culos - August 24, 2009, 10:03 am,
Delta please don't....or is it that time of the month again, in that case you're excused
culos - August 24, 2009, 10:11 am,
No but I would not like to see this discussion to continue. We've had enough ballast on the comment section....
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 10:12 am,
You're not wrong, but it'll be easier to deal with. Politics is a h** topic and so obviously, with all these different views and opinions, it's hard to keep under control... So as long as people don't jump on religion after this, all should be well..!
Arrogant Knight - August 24, 2009, 10:16 am,
Anyway, I'll shut up now. I gotta get some sleep. Bye guys... And behave! :)
MO - August 24, 2009, 10:19 am,
Good night AK!! And may god bless you!!!
BoneCD - August 24, 2009, 10:25 am,
*ear to screen* did I hear a Holy Moly reference there...OMG
Paul Kondor Poduszlo - August 24, 2009, 10:27 am,
BoneCD - August 24, 2009, 10:28 am,
I applaud you there did the right thing!
BoneCD - August 24, 2009, 10:30 am,
*unloads gun and puts it away*
MO - August 24, 2009, 10:39 am,
No bon**! It was only in response to AK saying "So as long as people don't jump on religion after this, all should be well..!"
BoneCD - August 24, 2009, 10:43 am,
Dude... That went right over your head...just having fun too! Of course if you don't want to share the sandbox I'll have to tell my mom on you!
MO - August 24, 2009, 10:54 am,
And mine flew right past your left ear!! I knew you was joshin! Don't tell your mom!
BoneCD - August 24, 2009, 10:55 am,
*just wondering if my mom could kick Nik's a*** sorry please forgive me...pleazzzzzzzzzz
MO - August 24, 2009, 10:58 am,
Does your mom have plastic brass knuckles and p******* lazer blue eyes? Eyes that seem to look into your soul and say...."do you feel lucky punk? ya?"
BoneCD - August 24, 2009, 11:00 am,
Well, seeing that all I have are black and white pictures, and really don't remember the color of her eyes, lets dig her up and see!
MO - August 24, 2009, 11:02 am,
d***! Gonna have to call you Bones now? That's? d***!
LogicDude - August 24, 2009, 1:16 pm,
I really like waffles.
LogicDude - August 24, 2009, 1:17 pm,
And who can forget bacon? I looooooooooves me some bacon!
Haarakkon - August 24, 2009, 1:17 pm,
Interestingly, the Church supported the theory of reincarnation until 553 AD, at the Third Council of Constantinople.
Ed-Hyde - August 24, 2009, 2:58 pm,
Mmmmm, Bacon Waffles!!!! mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm combo breaker
WTFO - August 25, 2009, 3:27 am,
Sean, no eugenics implied. I have govt provided health care. It sucks! Back injury in Aug, finally May MRI (condition got worse 10-fold), surgery in Jul. I don't wish that piss poor 'care' or rationing on other folks. Other efforts than govt are better.
WTFO - August 25, 2009, 3:30 am,
Culos, long time no see. A caring country doesn't need the govt to force money to feed their priorities. That is what charity is for. Redistribution of wealth is socialism and not what this Republic was based upon.
WTFO - August 25, 2009, 3:32 am,
AK, you keep saying this isn't the place for politics, but the Admin approved this poster 2 days ago. Confusing. Also, I've only been calling 1 person a prick recently. Finally, most of the recent flame wars haven't been about the politics, but about the
WTFO - August 25, 2009, 3:35 am,
clique trying to silence political discussion even if it's kept at a respectable tenor. Yes, politics can be touchy but you don't silence them because they can attract haters and vulgar Timmies. These recent flame wars are about bullying, not politics.
WTFO - August 25, 2009, 3:36 am,
PKP, both of us can do a better job at being concise. We have filled up pages with intelligent dialogue that is distracting from pages and pages of ***bs, beer, ugly dogs, pie, general stupidity, meaningless chat room banter and the occasional funny quip.
WTFO - August 25, 2009, 3:38 am,
Oh 'fair' moderator, I tried to post only one box per individual, except for you. I pray that meets your ROEs. I'd hate for any other motifakers to get their panties in a knot.
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 3:39 am,
banana creme
WTFO - August 25, 2009, 3:40 am,
I prefer chocolate silk
WTFO - August 25, 2009, 3:41 am,
Insomnia for you too, TTH?
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 3:44 am,
work. did you mean my dog by ugly dogs? cause that's a line you can't uncross!
WTFO - August 25, 2009, 3:47 am,
I pointed no fingers at any dog. Little paranoid?
WTFO - August 25, 2009, 3:47 am,
BTW, Deltabob placed a well stated position in this long chain somewhere. A voice of reason as usual.
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 3:48 am,
ugly dogs was on your list to AK. little forgetful?
WTFO - August 25, 2009, 3:51 am,
It was on my list in my PKP box. Not forgetful. Let me clarify, I pointed no fingers at any specific dog.
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 3:53 am,
sure. oops forgot....strawberry rhubarb.
Arrogant Knight - August 25, 2009, 3:54 am,
WTFO, I sent you a PM last night, check it please...
WTFO - August 25, 2009, 3:57 am,
AK, copy. Will reply momentarily. I appreciate and respect your outreach and will respond in kind.
WTFO - August 25, 2009, 3:58 am,
TTH, pumpkin pie
Arrogant Knight - August 25, 2009, 3:58 am,
No problem.
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 4:07 am,
pumpkin? not even close. Cherry a la mode.
agdaniele - August 25, 2009, 4:14 am,
What rednecks do at thanksgiving: Pump kin.
Arrogant Knight - August 25, 2009, 4:14 am,
Arrogant Knight - August 25, 2009, 4:15 am,
...The More Y'all Know..
agdaniele - August 25, 2009, 4:15 am,
Hey there, AK! Not outta bed yet, are ya?
WTFO - August 25, 2009, 4:17 am,
AK, on its way to you. TTH, cinnamon apple with vanilla bean scoop.
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 4:26 am,
nope. plain apple with cheddar cheese. cinnamon is for girly pies.
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 4:27 am,
and vanilla bean? the blandest one to make me scream and thats what i like to hear the most! I do not expect anybody to recognize those lyrics
agdaniele - August 25, 2009, 4:34 am,
Apple and cheddar? Really?
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 4:38 am,
yes american girl (iowa i think) turned me onto it.
agdaniele - August 25, 2009, 4:39 am,
As long as she wasn't from Wisconsin. Alterior motives for cheesing things, you know?
TheTrashHeap - August 25, 2009, 4:41 am,
Maybe indiana. met too many u.s tourist girls over the years to remember which state they were each from. Except the 1 from Cali, will never forget her!
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